What Students Really Need to Hear

It’s 4 a.m.  I’ve struggled for the last hour to go to sleep.  But, I can’t.  Yet again, I am tossing and turning, unable to shut down my brain.  Why?  Because I am stressed about my students.  Really stressed.  I’m so stressed that I can only think to write down what I really want to say — the real truth I’ve been needing to say — and vow to myself that I will let my students hear what I really think tomorrow.

This is what students really need to hear:

First, you need to know right now that I care about you. In fact, I care about you more than you may care about yourself.  And I care not just about your grades or your test scores, but about you as a person. And, because I care, I need to be honest with you. Do I have permission to be honest with you — both in what I say and how I say it?

Here’s the thing: I lose sleep because of you.  Every week.

Before I tell you why, you should understand the truth about school. You see, the main event of school is not academic learning. It never has been. It never will be. And, if you find someone who is passionate in claiming that it is about academics, that person is lying to himself or herself and may genuinely believe that lie. Yes, algebra, essay writing, Spanish, the judicial process —  all are important and worth knowing. But they are not the MAIN event.

The main event is learning how to deal with the harshness of life when it gets difficult — how to overcome problems as simple as a forgotten locker combination, to obnoxious peers, to gossip, to people doubting you, to asking for help in the face of self-doubt, to pushing yourself to concentrate when a million other thoughts and temptations are fingertips away.

It is your resilience in conquering the main event — adversity — that truly prepares you for life after school. Because, mark my words, school is not the most challenging time you will have in life. You will face far greater challenges than these. Sure, you will have times more amazing than you can imagine, but you will also confront incomparable tragedy, frustration, and fear in the years to come.

But, you shouldn’t be worried about the fact that you will face great adversities. You should be worried because you’re setting yourself up to fail at overcoming them. Here’s the real reason I lose hours of sleep worrying about you: You are failing the main event of school. You are quitting.  You may not think you are quitting, but you are because quitting wears many masks.

For some, you quit by throwing the day away and not even trying to write a sentence or a fraction because you think it doesn’t matter or you can’t or there’s no point. But it does. What you write is not the main event. The fact that you do take charge of your own fear and doubt in order to write when you are challenged — THAT is the main event.

Some of you quit by skipping class on your free education. Being punctual to fit the mold of the classroom is not the main event of showing up. The main event is delaying your temptation and investing in your own intelligence — understanding that sometimes short-term pain creates long-term gain and that great people make sacrifices for a greater good.

For others, you quit by being rude and disrespectful to adults in the hallway who ask you to come to class. Bowing to authority is not the main event. The main event is learning how to problem solve maturely, not letting your judgement be tainted by the stains of emotion.

I see some of you quit by choosing not to take opportunities to work harder and pass a class, no matter how far down you are. The main event is not getting a number to tell you you are worthy. The main event is pulling your crap together and making hard choices and sacrifices when things seem impossible.  It is finding hope in the hopeless, courage in the chasm, guts in the grave.

What you need to see is that every time you take the easy way out, you are building a habit of quitting. And it will destroy your future and it will annihilate your happiness if you let it.   Our society cares nothing for quitters.  Life will let you die alone, depressed, and poor if you can’t man or woman up enough to deal with hardship.  You are either the muscle or the dirt.  You either take resistance and grow stronger or blow in the wind and erode.

As long as you are in my life, I am not going to let quitting be easy for you.  I am going to challenge you, confront you, push you, and coach you.  You can whine.  You can throw a tantrum.  You can shout and swear and stomp and cry.  And the next day, guess what?  I will be here waiting — smiling and patient — to give you a fresh start.  Because you are worth it.

So, do yourself a favor: Step up.  No more excuses.  No more justifications.  No blaming.  No quitting.  Just pick your head up.  Rip the cords out of your ears.  Grab the frickin’ pencil and let’s do this.

— C. Mielke


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1,806 responses to “What Students Really Need to Hear”

  1. This is a fantastic article! Very well done! You must be an awesome teacher.

  2. Can you be my teacher?! No, but seriously ..this was amazing to read!!

  3. Can you be my teacher? No, but seriously …this was amazing!!

  4. I can’t believe people find this inspiring. Have any of you bothered to consider what the underlying things he is saying is?

    1. The easy way out should be frowned upon (yeah, only by ignorant people)
    “What you need to see is that every time you take the easy way out, you are building a habit of quitting. And it will destroy your future and it will annihilate your happiness if you let it.” Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. (Okay THE dumbest is a slight exaggeration, but really, this notion is just ridiculous!) I take the easy way out every time I use a rice cooker instead of wasting time cooking on the stove. I have to be honest, it doesn’t take any happiness away from me, it actually gives me happiness because I have time to do other things. Taking the easy way out, when it’s not hurting anyone, is just another way of saying you value efficiency. If some kid would rather listen to TED talks than some self-righteous jerk, who claims to care but makes the kid do all the work, I don’t think that child should be called lazy or a quitter.

    2. He’s claiming to have problems with his students, and therefore they and we should take his advice (why are you listening to him?!…because he sounds inspiring?! That should not be how we evaluate those we listen to.)
    The proof is in the pudding, so to speak. As someone who has worked with only one child, but a child who could count and spell in multiple languages by age 2, I can tell you what works. What works is not telling a child they are lazy and should “man up” and need to work harder. What works is letting the child figure out their own route and encouraging them in that, doing all you can to make life EASIER for them so they can focus on learning and being passionate about what they can be passionate about instead of focusing on working them to the bone and getting so-called results. Maybe if he stopped being a drill sergeant and started being a loving, decent human being (or maybe if he simply went to some seminars with people who taught and actually got results, and then used that) then he’d get some freaking sleep.

    3. Our society kicks people when they’re down (what a slap in the face to people who donate their time and money to people in need)
    My biggest problem with this:
    “Our society cares nothing for quitters. Life will let you die alone, depressed, and poor if you can’t man or woman up enough to deal with hardship. You are either the muscle or the dirt. You either take resistance and grow stronger or blow in the wind and erode.”
    Really? We as a society think this is okay to say people “die alone, depressed, and poor if you can’t man or woman up enough to deal with hardship”. I prefer to say we have this handy little thing called ethics, where we help people to through hardships. If someone (specifically a child, which is who the author is apparently working with) is drowning in a pond I wouldn’t say, well sink or swim buddy. I would get my butt over there and pull them out, I believe any decent person would. This is not simply theoretical, we can see our society doing this when we send relief aid to tsunami victims overseas, or send volunteers to orphanages. TO THE AUTHOR: Say what you want about your own practices and beliefs, but please don’t talk about my society as though it is a heartless machine that kicks people when they’re down. It’s not true and that’s not a fair or right message to send to others.

    1. While I see your point of view, I think Mr. Mielke is addressing the students who are MOST at risk of falling through the cracks. The ones who very well could be on their way to prison unless they make a significant turn around in how they approach life.

      One of the districts I worked in had to close one of their middle schools because computers and other equipment was routinely being stolen from the classrooms. By middle school, some students are already very accomplished criminals and a large percentage of these kids are actually quite proud of it.

      I think most people would give a similar lecture to such kids. Kids who, in their overconfidence, believe that they will be able to live a life of crime and foolishly think that they will never have to pay for it.

      I believe THAT is the audience that Mr. Mielke is addressing.

      But, you are right that this lecture is probably not going to be PERCEIVED in the right way.

      Mr. Mielke means this as a warning and I believe that he really IS stressed knowing that some of these kids are on the path to hardship, if not prison.

      However, be sure to look at the rest of his thoughts on Affective Living before you pass final judgment.

      He means well, but he does need to refine his approach.

      He needs to create a context for them that they can relate to. He needs to challenge them with questions that they haven’t even pondered before…like:

      “What would you do if your little sister was in a car crash and was badly injured?”

      Most students would say,

      “DUH! Call the ambulance.”

      That is when you can force them into seeing the relevance of school.

      “So these paramedics that you call…I assume that they are 1000 years old and will always be there if you need them?”

      “What?!”

      “Well, paramedics….they are immortal people right? No one has to replace them? You appear to think that these paramedics will never die.”

      “WHAT?! YOU CRAZY!”

      “So they DO die?”

      “Umm….yeAH!”

      “So who is going to replace them? Based on how all of you are acting, I can assume that no one here in this classroom will step up to become a paramedic.”

      “Ummmm…..”

      “What about in other classrooms around the country? I assume all those kids are all going be singers, dancers and sports stars too. Life is about doing what you WANT…right?”

      “NOW HOLD ON THERE!”

      “Why are you mad? You told me that school isn’t important or relevant to you…so please…tell me…who is going to replace the paramedics when they die?”

      “Ummmm…..”

      (Awkward silence)

      Praise and patience work only so much with difficult students. If you were teaching regularly, you would understand that. A significant percentage of these students even view school as a complete joke and they are more than happy to tell you this straight to your face.

      I honestly think that until these kids understand just how fragile and delicate life really is and that Mother Nature can be ruthless to mankind, (Hurrican Sandy, Perfect Storm of 1991) they will always think that school is a joke and not relevant to them.

      About 20 years ago, I read an article about a school district in Maine who made sure that any kid who refused to cooperate in school was sent to work in the potato fields for a week or two before being allowed to return to school.

      Perhaps that should be something we do here in Michigan as well.

    2. Okay! I’m getting a huge headache right now, and only beginning my search regarding this blog. PEOPLE… Especially those of you who are getting so fired up about this blog. Please-stop, talk, then walk. I thought this blog was absolutely amazing, encouraging, inspiring, and spot on. I too, am a teacher. An inner city school 3rd grade teacher to be exact for the last 18 years. The ultimate message the author is sending here is this….(do a close read again if necessary) The ultimate message the author is sending can be summed up in two words. “Tough Love!” This message has nothing to do with the school, gender, race, family background, poverty level or lack of anything. He is implying that his approach to “teaching” ALL STUDENTS, regardless of their history, good/bad/indifferent is the same. He knows his students, recognizes both their strengths and weeknesses. He also is so genius, that while knowing that, he continues to hold students accountable. That in itself is huge! Pushing students to achieve their highest potential is to be commended to educators who instill this philosophy in their lives while infusing this kind of thinking in young minds. The sooner the better. I salute this educator for being so brave and courageous. Great minds think alike. My mind and passion for teaching are the same. Call me names, conceited, full of myself, controlling… What have you. It truly doesn’t matter. What matters to me is that I am changing lives, everyday, week by week, year by year. I don’t need any additional validation from anyone because I am secure enough in my profession to know this already. Teaching 18 years has provided me with a super thick skin. Ultimately, getting back to the negative Nancy’s on this blog… Sounds to me (making an inference) that if you didn’t fully comprehend the author’s purpose of this article, well then that’s because you possibly lack reading comprehension skills, ( Google Close Read Strategies) or possibly you are truly envious and insecure as a teacher/professional/parent because you lack these “powers” in your own career/ life, or possibly you really needed or still need someone to validate your actual existence in this world. Otherwise known as a “TOUGH LOVE” teacher/friend/ spouse/ significant other/ boss/co-worker/ someone/ anyone/ who simply just “loves” and believes in YOU!

      1. Actually, I think the more discussion, the better. Teaching is a field in which you absolutely MUST be considering things from as many perspectives as possible.

        To discourage in-depth conversation is a disservice to the profession.

        If you have thirty students, then that is thirty different points of view to consider.

        Thoroughly reading a blog like this can keep a teacher rigorous and vigilant to changes in how the public sees our educators. The behavior of the students we teach can reflect what society as a whole is thinking.

      2. Okay Kevin, I get what you are saying, actually I think WE all “get it” by now. So now just stop yourself. I know you can do it, I’m not giving up on you, and now hope you have the ability to see this in yourself… (Empowered) While I mean this all with the outmost sincerity, you too Kevin need just a bit of my “touch love.” In response to your response to me, I need to clarify any misconceptions you may have had regarding my overall meaning. Since in this case, I am the teacher and you are the student, maybe the way I communicated my thoughts and feelings in words did not come across as clearly as I had hoped. So yes, I’m self reflecting. I initially started my response with PEOPLE… (generic right? It was supposed to be) Why? Because I didn’t want to single any “one” person out and embarrass them. However, with that being said, you were the only PERSON who felt the need to respond to me. That’s fine with me, and my super teaching powers are not surprised that you did this either. Why again? You knew I was referring to you. Let me tell you something Kevin… If you ever feel the need to try to engage in any type of blog conversation with me again, and expect me to have even an ounce of respect for you… You better, 1st-check your filter, 2nd-don’t pretend to know me, you don’t. 3rd-speak to ME using capital letters like “MUST”, words/phrases like …”discourage in-depth conversations,” or “disservice.” 4th-don’t go there with ME with a number of students, ( I’ve had as many as 34- 3rd graders, in a “self-contained” classroom. ( which translates to all day) Finally and 5th-don’t go there with ME surrounding “different points of view to consider.” I am a former special education teacher, ( Life Skills Support) and even though I teach in a “regular” education classroom, I still teach and ultimately connect with all my students. (“regular,” learning support, autistic support, speech and language, gifted, ADHD/ADD, students with IEP’s, 504 plans, etc…) DO YOU NOW GET MY POINT??? Wait don’t respond! This is your test… You do not have to always have the last word, this isn’t a game, at least it’s not with me. If you still feel the absolute urge and want to respond… A simple “thank you” will do just fine. Thank you!

      3. Ms. Mullee,

        I am sorry if my response to your post came across as more insulting than it was intended.

        My intent was only to defend the extensive conversation itself…not to belittle you as an educator. Whether you choose to believe me will be up to you….but that really IS my intent.

        I see myself as practicing in my own life what we all, as teachers, preach that our students must do in their own lives.

        To have conversations…both written and oral. To increase their vocabulary. To say, “Who the hell is this Kevin Elzinga? and what the HELL is he talking about when he mentions Robert’s Rules of Order?

        WTF?

        Those are questions…YES..slightly rude questions…but, hell…people have been rude to me before…I’m a man. I can take it. At least the students who visit this site are curious about something for once in their lives and they aren’t sticking their heads between ear plugs.

        By being a somewhat pompous ass, I am actually generating curiosity as well as the very conversation that students NEED to have with each other because, surely you must know, working in the inner city, that some of your students choose to have very UNPRODUCTIVE conversations rather than the more productive conversations we want them to have.

        Again, it was not my intent to insult you.

        But I really am a bit embarrassed by how much I have written.

        Again, it just snowballed.

        I suppose I could say: “Look on the bright side. What I have written here can’t give you any more of a headache than those 250-page textbooks we were forced to read in the 1970’s and 1980’s when we were in teacher’s college.

        Ugh…now THAT really WAS trying.

        But, in my defense, I have had very long periods of quiet on this site. I now typically answer only those people who appear to have the wrong idea about what my intentions are.

        I consider myself a diplomat…and we diplomats can be VERY annoying…because we yammer on and on.

        But then that is what comes with civilized society. There’s gonna be some yammering if we don’t want cussin’ and shootin’ going on.

        I might also say again, “Look on the bright side…certainly my yammering can’t be worse than what they are choosing to do in Syria…which is to simply shoot each other when they have disagreements.”

    3. Myself….you appear to be living in a unicorn bubble. Yes, a two year old can be molded and encouraged to do those things that YOU deem important. However, when a young adult enters high school, he/she has years of practice with the life narrative in their minds. Depending upon the parenting style, they can be self-motivated and striving for their dreams, or flailing around and unprepared for some of the most important educational and social years of their lives. Enter a teacher. Who cares. Enough! Your example of using a rice cooker and comparing it to a young person making a decision to get by with a “D” instead of using God-given skills to strive for that “A” is either laughable or indicative of a lack of knowledge regarding our youth today. This teacher sees all the possibilities for each of his students….and feels a great responsibility to guide and encourage. Let’s face it…the world responds to a hard working adult, whether one is the best street cleaner or physician….. It’s that work ethic that carries over into personal relationships and all phases of life. No shortcuts.

    4. Comment on teaching when you have taught about 1000 kids with multiple IQ’s, personalities, and home life baggage instead of one genius two yr old. You sound very proud of yourself!
      To the blogger – great read!

    5. Bullshit lady. Bullshit. 2 year old?? Oh please.

    6. You went WAY overboard with assumptions and extrapolations regarding this author and his point of view. I taught in public education for 31 years and as a private tutor for 5 more and can fully support every one of this author’s points. You come across as a harsh troll without the classroom experience to support your extreme views, similar to what I would have said at age 20 while in college.

    7. He means the easy way out regarding important things. I personally have experience with this and it’s right on. Maybe for you it isn’t, but for others it is.

    8. Agreed. 100%

      So sick of the continued relentless macho militarization of schooling.

  5. In any future posts, I will try to refer to the author as Mr. Mielke. Blogs have a tendency to be a little less formal, but I think it would be respectful to do so.

    But let me pose this question to ALL new teachers who visit this site.

    “How comfortable are you… REALLY… with being called Mr. or Ms.”

    It is a question I had to ask myself when I was young.

    I found that when I finally became comfortable with being called Mr. E. I was REALLY ready to teach.

    Prior to that, I think I was spending too much time trying to be a big brother rather than an actual teacher.

    Does that mean I have all the answers? HECK NO!

    But it is a sign that I HAVE…REALLY…begun to embrace the awesome responsibility that comes with the job.

    To NOT share some of my experiences and cautions with Mr. Mielke would be a disservice not only to him, but to any new teacher seeking guidance.

    If I were to say, “BAHH! Mr. Mielke will learn the hard way! What do I owe him?”….

    ….THAT …would be rude.

    Does that mean that I expect Mr. Mielke to operate EXACTLY as I do?

    No.

    But I am encouraging him to reflect inward, because self reflection and humility are crucial to the success of ANYONE in a leadership position.

    ESPECIALLY in teaching.

  6. Reblogged this on Wafiq Syed and commented:
    One of the most inspiring articles I’ve read about education and school. I promise it’ll inspire you too.

  7. […] this week, Mrs. Harris shared an Article with her students:  Chase Mielke’s “What students Really Need to Hear“, a  no-holds barred attempt to help students understand that every purposely missed […]

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    Read this a few times already but I still find something worth reading each time wow

  9. Hi C. Mielke, really have a good point on your topic .I agree with you because you can’t give up on your self if teachers can’t give up on you because the real main event is about you not giving up. A teacher once told me that it is you can never give up on your school.What made you think about writing this blog ?

    1. Hey Elliot. How’s life at San Andreas High? I appreciate your commenting on my post. To answer your question, this post really was inspired by a sense of worry I was having at 4 a.m. one morning. Beyond my family, my teaching and my students are the most important things to me. I believe in the value of the content I teach, but I believe in the value of the character and the skills students can learn from the process of school even more. I felt the need to express my belief that school is about much more than just essays and grammar — that with the right perspective, a person can find value in every experience, every day as a chance to become stronger, more resilient, and more intelligent. Even the little things like pushing yourself to try even if you “don’t know the perfect answer,” is a small step in building more resilience. I had hoped that if my students could reframe their view towards the small moments of school, it could shift their motivation, their optimism, and their belief in themselves.

      1. Love your post… I too lose sleep over my students. The need to persevere is so important. I teach my first graders what tenacity is – we talk about sticking with it even when it is hard. Our students are so distracted by huge life issues – I am constantly struggling with how to get them to recognize the importance of doing your best in life and not giving up. I know work with high-risk students from K through 8. It makes me sad when I realize the potential of some students who are chronic disruptions to the learning. I have been trying to have honest conversations with them – along the same lines as what you have written. Letting them know that I care and they matter and so does what they do each day. And I pray A LOT!! Thanks for the great read!

  10. I love how you show the other side of the story the real teachers point of view. I agree with everything you said and also that students NEED to hear this to be motivated to work harder. In my own experience I have days I want to give up and I feel like no one cares and if a teacher tells me that I would change my mind and go back to working. Do you make sure your students know that you care? and how?

    1. Thanks for the comment, Noe. I appreciate your thoughts 🙂 Like many teachers, I work hard to let me students know I care about them as people. Just telling them, though, does not do enough. The most important way I’ve learned to let students know I care is to be there for them no matter what they need — whether it be sacrificing my planning to help them through a personal crisis, or staying after school, or coming in early. I also work hard to listen to my students without judgment or having to throw in my advice every time they just need to vent. Most teenagers feel like the are “talked at” rather than “listened to,” and they deserve to be heard the same way I listen to any adult. Lastly, the most important conversations I can ever have with a student to let them know I care is to learn about them as people — their interests, hobbies, goals, motivations. Even if it has nothing to do with my class, education is about more than the required academics.

  11. Hey Mr Mielke,

    My name is David Gutierrez. I agree on what your saying about “The main event is learning how to deal with the harshness of life when it gets difficult” .We all need to learn how to deal with harshness of life when thing’s get out of hand because in the end its going to better us. I also like the fact that you care about your students more then they probably care about there self. That’s how students should be so the kids could know the teacher wants them to pass rather then them not caring because when students know teachers don’t care they wont even try. My question for you Mr Mielke, Is what were the mistakes your students were making? And did they improve them?

    1. Hey David!

      I appreciate your comment — and I agree: Most students won’t try their hardest if their teacher is not trying his/her hardest to help students learning.

      As for your question, it wasn’t necessarily that my students were making mistakes; all students (and people) make mistakes. What was worrying me was the fact that students were giving up, oftentimes before trying. Some would refuse to even write about how their day was going or wouldn’t work to turn in assignments, no matter how many chances and opportunities for support they were given.

      As much as I’d love to say those students all had a major turnaround, my words didn’t resonate with all of them. Most, however, are on a great track this year, passing their classes and seeking support. I’m not a believer that one speech or set of words can change a life entirely. Words are just seeds to plant. Depending on whether students (people) take the time to let the seeds grow, then change may happen.

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    aureliano martinez

    Hello Mr Mielke, great blog. I really liked how you said “What you need to see is that every time you take the easy way out, you are building a habit of quitting” in the eleventh paragraph. I personally agree with this theory. A question that came to my mind while reading your blog was how long have you been teaching?

    1. Hi Aureliano,

      Thanks for the comment and the support! This is my 8th year teaching. It has, and continues to be, the greatest decision I’ve ever made in my life. No matter how hard it is, it gives me a sense of purpose and never ceases to entertain and challenge me every day 🙂

  13. By now, I think the vast majority of educators have seen the video “F-Bombs for Feminism”. This video demonstrates one of the many outside forces working on the attitudes of our students in the classroom…even students as young as 7 and 8.

    It is distinctly possible that kids like this have also seen movies such as Police Academy…with the express approval of their parents I might add.

    Just recently, some teenagers from Denver were on their way to Syria to join ISIS when they were stopped in Germany.

    The result of all these forces are kids who have have very strong opinions about how adults should act…in ANY situation…including in school.

    BEGIN FAULTY CHILD PERCEPTION

    “Geez this teacher isn’t screaming at us. What’s up with THAT? Hey teacher! Did Laverne Hooks teach you how to teach?

    (Child mimicking Laverne Hooks’s squeaky voice)

    ‘Excuse me…you all need to settle down…excuse me…it would really help if you all just quieted down and sat down.’

    Come ONNN teacher…where’s your inner drill sergeant? I’m gonna keep putting my fingers in Suzie’s hair UNTIL you act like a ‘real’ teacher and scream at me like a rabid dog.”

    END FAULTY CHILD PERCEPTION

    Kids today often come to school with perceptions that stun new teachers. The average new teacher comes from a studious background with parents that encourage good study habits.

    The students, on the other hand, all come from different backgrounds and each child has his or her own perception on what constitutes a ‘good’ teacher.

    And often those perceptions are very limited.

    How a school handles the toughest kids will determine its success or failure as a school.

    When a child faces a lot of negative outside forces going into school, no ONE adult is going to save them from going down a destructive path. It will require a team effort and a consistent, POSITIVE message to change the behavior of the child.

    1. Your comments are interesting overall but I really fail to understand why you mentioned feminism as something negative for students when, in fact, it is one of the most important thongs we can do for our kids. All children should know that they are of equal value and oportnunity and what’s between their legs shouldn’t ever matter in determining that.

      1. Liz…I meant to say that F-Bombs for Feminism was a negative influence…not feminism itself. Although let me pose this question. What would Susan B. Anthony and the League of Women Voters think of the current state of the feminist movement? Do you think it would be favorable or unfavorable? Justify your assertions with facts that you can refer to.

        Which gives me an idea.

        HEY, MR MIELKE! HINT HINT! HERE’S A POSSIBLE ENGLISH PAPER FOR ONE OF YOUR STUDENTS TO PURSUE!

        What WOULD Susan B. Anthony think of the current feminist movement? When I was in school, that question would have ignited a TON of debate. Feel free to suggest this topic to your students.

  14. What fortunate students you have to have a teacher like you. Cheers to you…may you continue with your passion and light up the hearts and minds of our future.

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    Asawa N. Damian

    Thank you Kelvin Elzinga for your time and efforts… May God bless you more.

  16. I realize that I have commented a fair amount on this site and, to be honest, I am a little embarrassed that I now appear to be overpowering the conversation. That wasn’t my intention in the beginning but things just started to snowball. I also hope that I don’t come across as flippant or arrogant although I can see how some people might think that.

    Given that I have encountered literally thousands of students from very diverse backgrounds, I felt a need to provide some insight for new teachers to refer to.

    Before any teacher can teach, he or she has to sort out behavior issues and determine the motivations behind those behaviors. The faster a teacher does this, the more successful he or she will be. If you simply lecture to your students or scold them, you aren’t really addressing the problem. You have to zero in on motivations as quickly as possible and then develop a plan to address those motivations.

    Behaviors that are motivated by a misunderstanding of classroom material must typically be remedied by the teacher.

    Behaviors that are motivated by cognitive troubles or emotional troubles usually can’t be tackled alone.

    Sorting out motivations is very much like running an experiment. You come up with several theories as to what is going on and then test them…starting first with the theory that the student is simply having trouble understanding you. You want to give the student the benefit of the doubt.

    Once you identify those students who are acting out simply because they don’t understand you, then you tackle the more difficult students. As you eliminate the logical motivations for misbehavior (cognitive, perceptual troubles), then you start wading into the ILLOGICAL reasons for misbehavior….in other words, the students who are misbehaving simply because they are being taught at home to “resist the man” or to “rage against the machine”.

    Or they might simply see the school as their marketplace and nothing more than that.

    Those theories may sound a little presumptuous, but as horrifying as they might seem to a more cultured teacher, I have run into students who are perfectly content with living the thug life and they go to school only to learn skills that will “serve” them on the street.

    They routinely play adults and kids off one another and don’t appear to care whether they hurt others. They are practicing how to be deceptive and how to play the police. They are learning who they can con and who they cannot.

    And no matter how hard you try to be patient with them, they sense this, and see your patience as a weakness to exploit.

    These are the toughest kids to reach because school is a very small influence in their lives from the very beginning. The only reason they go to school is so that their parents won’t get tangled up with the police for supporting truancy.

    The best teachers learn to read body language. A student might say, “I am sorry” for misbehavior, but his body language might scream, “I am going to get in another dig very soon.”

    A new teacher might know that a student is being insincere, but not feel comfortable confronting it…especially if, upon confronting this insincerity, the teacher loses some of his or her or idealism in the process.

    Surrendering one’s idealism to reality is never easy to do, but if you know that you have applied a LOGICAL approach to addressing behavior issues and you find that there is nothing logical left to explain misbehavior, then the only motivations left are the illogical reasons…the motivations driven by forces completely outside your control.

    The nice thing is, usually you never end up having to deal with more than 5 or 6 illogical students…even in those districts that are labeled as “troubled”.

  17. Words cannot describe how much I loved this article (and everyone I shared it with). It was beyond inspiring.

    As for the people (I don’t think hints need to be given here) who have too much time on their hands – all I am going to say is “didn’t your parents/ teachers/guardians ever tell you, that if you have nothing nice to say don’t say it at all”

    …maybe they would of learned this if they had a teacher like you who cares as much as you do! Thank you.

    1. With teaching, you must be prepared for the possibility that not all of your students will share the same concern for you that you have for them. In fact, I honestly believe that a few students will fail their classes simply to upend a teacher’s career…or to take the teacher down a notch or two.

      What is inspirational to a person who is currently a teacher isn’t necessarily going to be inspirational to a student who is “giving up”. In fact, the student who is “giving up” may be hostile to school in general and see it as an unnecessary burden.

      The television show “Jericho” touched a little bit on this when the directors of the show orchestrated a scene in which several students walked out on their teacher after asking her, “How is any of this stuff you are teaching me important to me? I have the survival of my family to think about!”

      The same politics that plays out in elections can also occur in the classroom. Kids tend to inherit many of the same political views of their parents…not all of which are friendly to teachers. Which means that if, as a teacher, you really want to reach a difficult student, simply saying, “I care about you” is not enough. You have to make your material relevant to the students you are trying to reach.

      This isn’t meant to be unkind advice. It is meant more as a reality check. To be in tune with what you are actually seeing in your classroom as opposed to what you want to see in your classroom.

      1. Of what use is “the Metaphor” to a Doomsday Prepper? Or should Mick Dodge avail himself of Shakespeare when there are berries to forage?

      2. Mr. Elzinga, if you have so much to say then start your own blog instead of simply responding to this blog or responding to commenters that find this article inspiring?? You say that you don’t mean to overpower the conversation and don’t want to sound arrogant, but then please just stop typing. PLEASE

  18. Reblogged this on Cassandra Lynn and commented:
    Funny how I happened upon this just when I start thinking about possibly becoming a teacher one day…

  19. […] to reprint it in this posting so I offer you the link so that you might take the time to read it; https://affectiveliving.wordpress.com/2014/03/08/what-students-really-need-to-hear/    While I do not know the author, I am keenly aware of the type of teacher to which he […]

  20. Thank you! I have shared with the staff at my building.

  21. I think that Mr. Mielke is a dedicated teacher. He listens to his students when they have a crisis. As an English teacher, he is in a unique position to help these students find new ways of expressing themselves without resorting to hostility and confrontation. From what I can tell, he is doing a terrific job.

  22. Chase,
    Your article, “What Students…Hear,” is both insightful and inspiring. During my teaching career, 7th, 8th, & 9th PAP/Honors/Academic English, I have experienced so many of the scenarios you described in the article. I have a plethora of anecdotes I could relay, which illustrate your viewpoints. But, I will restrain myself by only describing two.

    While in my 1st year of teaching (7th reading), I was talking to my husband and referred to my students as my “kids.” (Which, as you know, is very common as a teacher.) However, my husband thought I was talking about OUR actual children. Needless to say, he was quite confused until I explained it to him. But, calling one’s students their “kids” doesn’t necessarily indicate a true, honest concern and affection for their students, however, there are indeed so many teachers out there, which truly do think of their students as their “kids.”

    During my years as a 9th English teacher, I had a young man in my class for the 2nd time, (with a year in between the two placements). He was a 17 year old, Hispanic, slender young man, who lived in the absolute poorest part of town, where stealing, dealing drugs, gangs, and other crimes was a way of life, to the point of it being the “family business,” and he was ALWAYS in trouble at school; thus he was suspended or placed into in-school suspension due to his disrespectful behaviors and “cutting school, and he NEVER turned in one assignment (in class or homework). He was very smart in math, but he was still repeating English. As was his preferred seat, he was sitting in the back corner of the classroom next to my locking cabinet. (I tried unsuccessfully to move him closer, but that wasn’t a battle I chose to fight…there was so much more that was important, and I was thrilled he was in class!) After class had been dismissed, I went to my cabinet, got what I needed, and tried to lock the cabinet. However, the locking lever, which previously turned to the left, and rested in the locking bracket, NOW turned to the right and, of course, no longer locked. Immediately, I knew it was “John” that had “redesigned” my lock, without the aid of any tools or keys. The next day, “John” sat in his chosen seat, and I approached him. “‘John,’ I need you to fix my cabinet lock, so I can lock the cabinet.” His response, “Aw man…Miss, what you talkin’ about…I didn’t do nothing.” “‘John,’ I know you changed it, and I need it to work.” I handed him a small screwdriver, and he took it. “Miss….I’ll fix it, but I didn’t do nothing…you just blaming me.” I said, “‘John, you’re not in trouble…I just need you to fix it, please.” So, I proceeded with class, and he proceeded to “fix” the lock. At the end of class, he came to me after nearly all the students were out of the room. “Here’s your screwdriver.” “Okay…Thank you for fixing it.” “Miss…you thought I was gonna steal your screwdriver didn’t you. (He made the remark as a statement, not as a question.) “No, “John” I didn’t think you would steal it.” Then he said, “Miss….you the only teacher that really care about me…All the others just think I’m bad, but you…Man…I don’t get that.” I said, “‘John,’ I do care about you, but I need you to care about YOU. You are so smart, but you have given up on yourself…You are so good with math…and you KNOW I’m NOT good with math!” He and I both quietly snickered. He said, “Math is easy.” I pleaded, “You could be an engineer, or an accountant, or anything you wanted, but you have to get an education…that’s your only way out…I worry so much that you are going to end up in jail or dead…you are a good person, you are smart, but you must get an education, otherwise you will never get out of the situation you are in.” He grinned with that mischievous grinned he always flashed to me and then looked down at the ground with his shoulders slumped far down (I don’t think he could have physically gotten any lower unless he fell to the floor). My heart sunk. That’s when I knew, “John” had fallen through the cracks; he had given up and was just waiting to drop out of school. I knew that with each year he didn’t learn, the gap between what he had learned and his potential would become greater and greater, to the point that if he were tested for special education, he would appear to have learning disabilities. Being on a 2 semester, 3 grading period per semester system, I NEVER gave “John” or any other student a grade below a 60 (even though the official bottom at the time was 50, now it can be as low as a 0 ) because he could NEVER recoup for a passing semester average.
    Shortly after this incident, he was sent to the alternative school for, yet again, being disrespectful to a teacher, which often included cursing the teacher, the principal, the school….the whole world. He would not be allowed back until he had completed his 45 days, which I knew really meant he would never come back before dropping out. Each day he “cut school” was a day not counted, or he would end up incarcerated or dead. I asked others if they had any news on “John,” but no one ever did. I know this kid of mine is only one of the thousands of similar stories out there.
    Could I have done more to save him, yes…but I didn’t….I had a family with my own pre-teen and teenage children, a husband, and 150 other kids at school that needed my attention.
    But, I often think of him…and of what he could have been…if…only if….

    1. I’ll admit I didn’t read all the replies, but this was posted on face book by an excellent, caring teacher. I ran a copy off and highlighted several parts of it. I want my grandchildren to read it. They are young and hopefully this will help them. Now days children have so many problems to deal with, they need all the inspiration they can get. If this letter helps, great! I’m glad some teachers feel this way, as some just push the student out of the room instead of getting to the real problem. I know the teacher that posted this to my face book page is very caring and wants the best for her students.

    2. Karen, The way you handled “John” was admirable. I wish I could say I have always had the same level of patience with kids who are like John, but, given that I am a man, I am somewhat “expected” to get the troops in line…just as a gang leader would.

      Many boys in gangs are taught the following:

      You either own the men around you or you are replaced by them.

      This jockeying for supremacy on the streets inevitably will show up in the classroom from time to time. It is another one of those ocean waves that can intrude upon the relatively quiet tidal pool that is your classroom.

      You calmed those waves that John brought with him quite gracefully and I salute you for it, Karen. Keep up the great work!

  23. I too am curious as to why Mr. Elkins feels compelled to comment about everything that appears to come to his mind, whether related to this post or not. This is not you soapbox nor your classroom so please cease the attempt to “teach” us all. Thank you.

    1. Twyla, this is a forum to share ideas about teaching. Sure…I have written quite a lot here. Some people think that is great…others NOT so great.

      Surely you can understand that if I simply surrendered to the opinions of my critics and let them dictate everything that I do, I would already be in a grave.

      Yes…

      Some of my most vocal critics are truly THAT indifferent to my continued existence.

      Yes…I have received a death threat or two in my time…for some of the stupidest things I might add.

      But that is beside the point. This isn’t just about me. This is about what Mr. Mielke, and ALL teachers are trying to drill into you as students.

      We, as teachers, often try DESPERATELY to show difficult students that there is another way to handle disagreements…through writing…and conversation.

      And I am talking real conversation….not profanity-laced curses and threats designed to intimidate. Teachers are desperate to see conversation from their students that can lead to compromise rather than violence.

      You kids have absolutely NO idea what you are facing when Mr. Mielke and I are gone. You have NO clue just how fragile our civilized society is because you have been letting Mr. Mielke and I worry about it.

      But someday soon it will be ENTIRELY up to you how your country and your world will unfold and if you are not prepared for what awaits you, I PROMISE you, Mother Nature is a FAR crueler opponent than man can be.

      FAR crueler.

      We adults KNOW the foe you are up against…you do not. You don’t yet have the life experience to know what can happen when anarchy descends on a culture. Sure you can see anarchy unfold in the news…in those far off countries that begin with an A and an I and…an S…do one of them begin with an S?

      But unless you have been immersed in anarchy, you really DON’T get it.

      If you have any sixth sense at all, Twyla, you will know that I am not playing when I say that.

      You either learn to take Mother Nature seriously or she WILL mow you down…without remorse.

      This blog is what a real conversation among adults looks like. It can be very belaboring, extensive and dull, but in the end, conversation preserves what is most noble about man.

      Our compassion and our ability to reason our way out of disputes.

      We often measure history in this country by the wars that have occurred in our past…Some people who write our history want the wars we have fought to be the ONLY mileposts our children to refer to in the future to guide their actions when a disagreement erupts.

      I ask you this question Twyla. How many wars have NOT occurred because our ancestors chose to pursue the dull, belaboring art of conversation and compromise rather than the inflammatory art of rhetoric?

      You can’t answer that question because history doesn’t tend to champion our compromises as much as it champions our brave and heroic deeds in war.

      The Books of Psalms and Proverbs in the Bible preserve our more noble acts, but we are advised not to open a Bible in public schools because…you guessed it…conversations about the Bible can often lead to fights over who God has chosen as His people.

      So we, as teachers, are typically confined to speaking only about secular values and Robert’s Rules of Order.

      Really think about it: You don’t see city governments cussing each other out and threatening to stick each other…do you?

      In the end, our civilized society exists today BECAUSE our ancestors chose to talk it out.

    2. It’s a BLOG. That’s the purpose of it. It’s HIS writing space. He can write what he wants. You get to choose to read it…or not.

  24. Wow if only every student could read this and apply it. Having only graduated from college 4 short years ago, I wish I could have given this to half of that graduating class. So many of my peers thought that getting straight A’s or a 4.0 would bring them the job of their dreams. They could party all the time, but never have to actually gain any real work experience. Boy were they wrong. Many stayed to get their MBAs thinking that would help them out. More perfect grades. Although they again didn’t have the real world experience to apply to the curriculum.

    I had PAID internships lined up for our Marketing Club, out there for those hungry enough to get them, and you know what, they turned them DOWN! I was speechless and flabbergasted. How could a college student turn down an internship, that was PAID and at a Fortune 10 company nonetheless.

    Students these days don’t realize how hard they have to work to get the things their parents gave them all their life. They don’t respect the fact that you have to earn it, and sometimes it means failing, or worse being wrong.

    Thank you for your service as an educator. Hopefully you can get this to sink in to at least a few.

  25. Thank-you for writing this. You have hit the nail on the head. As a teacher, my goal is the same as yours: teach children how to face adversity.

  26. Reblogged this on Rosealee Lee and commented:
    This says it all. And frankly, the majority of employers agree.

  27. I love your post. I am a teacher and I do bring home my students with me daily and think about them nightly. I am encouraged that you are fearless in letting them know how much you care and why it is that we do this thing called “school”. Kudos

  28. Reblogged this on Life as Lizzie and commented:
    This is why, even though I will admit that getting A grades comes easily to me, I still did my best on every assignment. Because I could, and I wanted to, and if I didn’t push myself, I would be letting myself down because I knew I could do better. If there was any message that I could pass on to younger generations, it is this one. And this teacher/blogger says it perfectly.

  29. I think that this article makes some very important points concerning the educational system.

    However it is clearly written from a teacher’s perspective and I think that it fails to fully understand the student experience. There are many reasons that students fail to do well in school. While laziness, apathy and a lack of self-discipline certainly play a role there are many other factors involved.

    As someone who struggled in High School I can say that the most difficult thing for me was not the fact that the material was boring (it was). It was not the fact that I was under constant social scrutiny from all of my peers (I was). And It was not the fact that I hated waking up at 6:45 a.m (I did).

    The most difficult thing for me was the complete condescension that I felt coming from all of the school’s staff. The immense amount of power that a school system has over all of it’s students seems to be mainly used to micro-manage their entire lives for reasons that continue to elude me.

    Perhaps it stems from the fact that this type of micro-management is necessary, for obvious reasons, in elementary schools. However it often seems like the same amount of control necessary for ten year old students is still exercised in High School. For example, a high school student is expected to raise their hand and ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water. A high school student is expected to be sitting in a certain spot at exactly a certain time down to the second. Otherwise they will be marked late. They are expected to eat only at a very specific designated time every day. They are expected to sit in their seat for the entirety of a class even if they have completed all of their work and have nothing left to do but twiddle their thumbs.

    These are just a few of an almost endless list of unnecessary levels of control exercised over students.

    You cannot possibly say that this prepares them for the “real” world. No matter where you are in life, apart from being a sweatshop laborer, you will be afforded the very basic freedoms of standing up to go to the bathroom, getting a drink of water, or coming in a few minutes late because you wanted eggs for breakfast instead of the usual, prepared in sixty seconds, piece of toast. And of course you won’t be forced to sit around at a desk even if there is no work to be done.

    This level of completely unnecessary control is rigorously enforced.

    Perhaps you are beginning to see why I classify a school’s staff as condescending. They treat the students as if they were ten year old children.

    However high school students are still expected to behave like adults. You accuse your students of whining and throwing tantrums (obviously somewhat of an exaggeration) but you must understand the hypocrisy of expecting them to act like adults when you insist on treating them like children.

    I would recommend re-reading your own blog and evaluating your portrayal of yourself juxtaposed with your portrayal of the students. You write as if they are all immature, whining brats while you are the wise and all-knowing elder who knows exactly what is best for all of them.

    The fact of the matter is that these are not children you are dealing with, no matter how much you would like them to be. These are highly sophisticated individuals at the cusp of adulthood. They are oftentimes perfectly capable of legitimately knowing what is best for themselves and they are capable raising perfectly legitimate complaints about the system they are forced to deal with. You should recognize that every once in awhile they might be right and you might be wrong. This is something that is very easy to forget when you wield all of the power but it’s absolutely crucial if you want to truly be an inspiration your students.

    What students are truly lacking at school is respect.

    If you truly care about your students, you will listen to their complaints objectively. If a student refuses to do their homework, consider asking what their problem with that particular assignment was or how it could be improved to make it more interesting to them. This would be a much more effective technique than giving them the accusatory lecture described above. I think you will find that oftentimes they will have reasonable arguments against the way your classroom is being run. Perhaps they are wrong, but you should give them the dignity of thoughtfully examining their complaints rather than simply writing them off as a “tantrum.”

    To reiterate my very first sentence, your blog raises some very important points. Many students simply are lazy and apathetic and a harsh reminder that they are throwing away their future might be appropriate. And of course you must maintain a certain level of control over your classroom.

    I am simply saying that when your students are showing signs of discontent you shouldn’t immediately jump to the conclusion that they are lazy and stupid.

    They might have a point.

    If you can be big enough to acknowledge that, you will be a truly amazing teacher.

  30. When I first started reading this, I could’t help but think my ex-husband told me all the time how much he loved me. Well he is my ex-husband because he never showed it! Actions speaks louder than word. We can no longer continue to simply tell our students that we care. We must show them.

    I have been an educator for 22 years and have rarely told a student that I care about them. Yet many of my student refer to me as Mama, Auntie and here lately grandma. It has been my actions which have shown my students that I care. When you state something that should be the obvious, who are you really trying to convince? Yourself or your audience?

  31. Hahaha! “Grab a frickin’ pencil and let’s do this!”

  32. grab a frickin pancil

  33. You are a blessing sir.

  34. Respect to you … I was one of those dumb kids, I used to fight my teachers when they put me in detention and I used to think its because they hate me but in actual fact they cared about me, they could of so easily said ‘Yh whatever, I’m still getting paid’ and don’t waste their time by siting with me in a empty classroom after school but they did, it did take me awhile to realise but I did…

  35. Honestly, this is exactly what I needed to hear. thank you for posting this.

  36. Ignore all the haters. This post rocked and obviously you do to, you care, most teachers do not. You can be my teacher any day, granted I’m done with college for now, but you can still be my teacher any day.

  37. Loved this and made sure I posted it to my 13 yr old son’s Facebook page..will be great dinner conversation between us this weekend!!

  38. Thank you for this article. It’s been 35 years since I was in free school. I saw my current self in your different quitters. I didn’t like what I saw, so I’m changing some of my behaviors. Like…I’m gonna go get some sleep so I can function better tomorrow.

  39. This absolutely moved me…

  40. Worth reading. I work in the school system and my comments come from the vast differences in teaching staff and three of my own children that are from a solid home but have learning disabilities. My 17 yr old son was finally diagnosed with inattentive ADD and anxiety. He had a complete eval done that was able to let teachers know exactly where his deficits are and how to help him. A 504 was done, given to his teachers and basically never looked at again until his Dad and I asked questions and got all the teaching staff in one room and had emails to back up all communication between staff
    and administration. He is a wonderful kid but hasn’t found “his thing”. These kids must be pursued by teachers! He would never be comfortable checking in every day after class due to his anxiety etc. You put a kid like him un seven classes a day with assignments fir each everyday us projects, can you guess what happened? There was a mountain of work he couldn’t climb out from underneath and It seemed that many of the Teachers just felt like it was an excuse. My awesome son never left his room. Did homework for 3 months straight and couldn’t climb out since 504 was never followed until the last 3 months of school. We are in a small High School, 40-50 per each grade level. I had to ask my son in counseling if he would hurt himself. My point is, only one of his Teacher’s reached out to him. None of the others talked to him in person, just by email. Please try to get ro know your students. It is easy to make sprawling judgements but you never know what is going on. My son has a great schedule this year and goes to a tech program half the day and back to HS for the rest. Doing fairly well grade wise and new teachers have been so supportive. The damage from last year is not undone. He still is very isolated with the exception of a wonderful girlfriend. He has no self esteem and as we have heard from many people over the years, “he flys under the radar”. I hope every teacher cares for each student, not just the ones who are easy to love. They are the kids that are recognized over and over by awards etc. While some great kids that are suffering socially are so largely overlooked. My son has zero behavior issues. Just wants to be included. He is goodlooking but quiet and shy, therefore, lonely. Sorry for venting. Wish things could have been done differently, so he could enjoy life and not stay isolated. Ideas are welcome! Invest in the kids! I know you are not only Teachers but social workers too. It is a big job, but the secret is, everyone’s job is bigger than it was 10-15 yrs ago. No one is unique in that situation. I worked with the chronically mentally ill for 10 years which pays way worse than teacher pay FYI and when I started I had 15 on my caseload and 80 when I left. That is also a dangerous job, often daily. I will stop now. I guess I wish my son had one person who wouls mentor him and help hiim. Counseling only goes far. I don’t know who he feels he can truely trust.

    1. Carla,

      I agree that a teacher should try to check in every day with each student. Even if it is to ask, “Have you called that auto technician that I referred you to?” or “Have you called that farmer that I put you in touch with?”

      The students who fly under the radar often have talents that they haven’t discovered…talents that some schools don’t even introduce their students to.

      If I were a full-time teacher, I might say to a kid who is 5 grade-levels behind his peers:

      “Look, I realize that you never plan to use the stuff that I am teaching you when you graduate but at the very least, you must show respect to the kids in this class who want to get a good grade and who want to go to college They are going to play a crucial role in society too some day. If you can show respect in my class and make at least some effort to work on the classwork or help out with various tasks (like copying, or cleaning), I will pass you, but you shouldn’t expect to get an A out of me.”

      I think at some point a teacher needs to compromise with a student who would rather work in a trade of some kind. Throwing boxes around or cleaning buildings can be very hard work, but it doesn’t require a lot of schooling to do.

      Just a positive attitude, discipline and a good physical work ethic.

      Why fail a kid and deprive him or her of a diploma (and perhaps numerous jobs) when the kid might have a bucket full of other traits that might help him or her become a success?

      I wonder how many students might be saved from a life on the street if they knew for sure that they will pass and get a diploma simply for having a cooperative spirit.

      I think the entire way in which we measure kids for success needs an overhaul.

      I am not backing away from saying that academics are important…they are very important.

      But not so important that we deprive kids of other careers simply because they didn’t choose the careers that we might specialize in.

  41. You are “one of a kind”!
    Thanks to your parents and those in your life who brought you to this point.
    Our system is in dire need of champions like you.
    God bless you and STAY STRONG!

  42. Your tie is really crooked in your picture, but great post!

    1. ^This comment made me go look again! lol She’s right. Great post, and every child should read it as well as every educators!

    2. Really? Why did you feel the need to say that?

      1. Because she felt like posting it fi encourage others to do the right thing

    3. True haha 🙂 But maybe it indicates that he is not perfect too? And he also had those struggles… maybe a bit too philosophical for a Monday…

    4. True, it doesn’t line up perfectly with the vest – but the knot is perfect and it is a really nice tie. And suit. And post.

    5. Your tie is crooked, really? Your comment is really stupid, but stupid comment!

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